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MANOA NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 2007 NOELANI ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAFETERIA CALL TO ORDER: At 7:02 p.m., Chair Paul Holtrop called the meeting to order with ten members present and introduced the members of the Manoa Neighborhood Board. MEMBERS PRESENT: Gary Andersen, Rodney Chun, Eric Eads, Paul Holtrop, Dwight Jackson, John Kim, Brandon Mitsuda, George Nakano, Rose Niimoto, Nadine Nishioka, Milton Ragsdale, and Glen Tanaka (appointed at meeting). (Seventeen seats, two vacancies -quorum is nine members). MEMBERS ABSENT: Francisco Figueiredo, Tom Heinrich, and Nathan Say. GUESTS: Larry Reifurth (Governor’s Representative); Susan Miyao (Senator Taniguchi’s Office staff); Kim Fassler (Honolulu Advertiser); Captain R. Green, Lt. G. Lum Lee, Sgt. K. Namasake, Det. S. Forman, Officer J. Hendricks (Honolulu Police Department); Su Shin (Honolulu HonoluluHHhHhBoard of Water Supply); Grace Furukawa; Councilmember Ann Kobayashi; Jim Manke (University of Hawaii); Hubert Minn (Senior Advisor Department of Customer Services); Helen Nakano (Malama o Manoa); Scott Wilson (Malama o Manoa); Chuck Pearson; Ardis Shaw Kim (T-Mobile Consultant); Joe Paikai; Tim Slaughter (University of Hawaii); Wendy Pearson; Christina Stidman (ASUH); Representative Kirk Caldwell; Senator Brian Taniguchi; Richard Fassler; Kim Fassler; Richard Yamashiro; Vicky Yamashiro; Melodie Metzger; Dean Makimoto; Brian Shimakawa; Gail Tamura; Wendell Ching; Jesse Ikey; Diane Shimasu; Seth Tanimoto; Michael Kliks; Laurie Chang; Mike Linewebber; Sandy Sukiyama de Olivera; Joe Ferrao; Larry Yamamoto; Gordon Kuada; Tony Warspring; Nathaniel Ching; Daniel Dinnell; George Arzumi; Captain John Whalen (Honolulu Fire Department); Bryan Mick ( FILLING OF VACANCIES: The Chair asked if there were any people interested in filling the vacancy in Subdistrict I. Glen Tanaka indicated he was. The Chair asked him to give a brief introduction of himself. Tanaka said he was currently an optometrist who had grown up in Manoa. He was an Iolani and UH graduate, and had also attended college on the mainland. He is currently in the reserves. He would like to bring a preservation standpoint to the Board. Mitsuda nominated Glen Tanaka to fill the vacancy in Subdistrict I, Kim seconded. Say was appointed unanimously 11-0-0. (Aye: Andersen, Chun, Eads, Holtrop, Jackson, Kim, Mitsuda, Nakano, Niimoto, Nishioka, Ragsdale). 12 members now present. The Chair asked if there was anyone from Subdistrict IV interested in being appointed to the board. No one indicated that they were. PUBLIC SAFETY INPUT: Fire tip of the month: The National Fire Protection Association has selected "Practice Your Escape Plan" as the theme for Fire Prevention Week, which will be on October 7 - 13, 2007. Signs will be displayed at all fire stations, and demonstrations will be conducted at various schools and shopping centers around the island. The 2007 Fire Fighter's Safety Guide will also be distributed to all elementary schools. In addition, the Honolulu Fire Department would like to take this opportunity to remind the community that the provisions of the traffic code regulating the operation, parking and standing of vehicles does not apply to emergency vehicles responding to emergencies, provided the driver of the vehicle sounds a siren, bell or exhaust whistle and displays a lighted red lamp. These warning devices help to ensure the safety of the public as well as the safety of the emergency responder. Please refer to the Revised Ordinances of Honolulu, Traffic Code, Section 15-4.4, located at http://www.honolulu.gov/refs/roh/15al_9.htm for further information HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT (HPD) – Captain Green distributed his report and added that there was an attachment on the new District Seven website. District Seven had been chosen to be the prototype for a new and improved type of webpage. It can be viewed at www.honoluluhpd.org/patrol/d7 It includes contact information as well as incident reports for the month. These reports show the streets that the incidents happened on, but not specific addresses. For the month of August compared to July, Questions, answers, and comments: 1) Niimoto asked that if someone observes and/or hears a crime and fails to call 911, can they be held liable for anything. Captain Green said he would have to see if there were any laws that cover this situation. 2) Niimoto asked what homeowners who live along the stream should do if hikers are on their property and refuse to leave. Captain Green replied if they are on private property, the police can be called as they can issue a trespass warning. 3) Nakano asked what the status of the 311 line is, as that would alleviate much of the calls that currently go to 911. Captain Green said that 311 was on the back burner for now, as HPD’s resources went to Enhanced 911 (E911). Nakano asked if there was anything the Board can do to help move 311 to the front burner. Captain Green said that HPD is presenting a package of five issues that they will be asking the public and the Neighborhood Boards to help lobby for at the Legislature. 4) Nakano mentioned that the speed trailers are hard to see during the day. What they need is a ‘baseball’ cap device. Captain Green said they would look into it, but these types of devices have been stolen off other speed trailers. 5) An audience member asked about an August 25 incident on COMMUNITY INPUT: COUNCILMEMBER ANN KOBAYASHI –Councilmember Kobayashi distributed her newsletter. She said that although the ownership issue of the top of Questions, answers, and comments: 1) Andersen asked if the scenarios of a power blackout had been considered when discussing rail. Councilmember Kobayashi replied that buses can be powered by alternative fuels, or run on electric rail or on their own power, so they are immune to blackouts. Andersen asked if stretchers could be loaded on the buses in the event of a disaster. Councilmember Kobayashi answered they could easily be loaded as there are no steps. 2) Audience member Christina Stidman asked that since technology for buses was at its peak in the 1960’s, will it be as desirable as rail in a few years. Councilmember Kobayashi replied that the technology for the buses is only five years old, and compares favorably with rail. And if people opt to not ride the bus, the fixed guideway could be opened to automobiles instead. 3) An audience member asked who they can address neighborhood traffic issues to as buses and rail are mega issues. Councilmember Kobayashi said that either herself or the Board can handle those sort of issues, for instance the situation with the morning traffic near MAYOR’S REPORT- Hubert Minn, Senior Advisor, Customer Services Department (CSD) said he had an answer to last month’s question concerning parking near the entrance to Questions, answers, and comments: Niimoto asked how drivers in Manoa valley could be educated on the proper use of their turn signals. REPRESENTATIVE KIRK CALDWELL – Representative Caldwell congratulated Tanaka on his appointment to the Board. He passed out his monthly flyer and highlighted a) His office has received lots of calls and e-mails about the proposal to place a cell phone antenna in the Questions, answers, and comments: Andersen asked if the 2050 draft was online. Representative Caldwell replied he was not sure if it was up yet, but it would be eventually. Andersen asked if it included any study on carrying capacity. SENATOR BRIAN TANIGUCHI – Senator Taniguchi handed out his report and highlighted a) This is a good time for constituents to suggest bills to their elected representatives as we approach next legislative session. b) The community input meetings on Manoa Public Library had gone well. c) He is working with UH President McClain to address the problem of Albizzia trees. He introduced a resolution asking the University to take steps to control the spread of these invasive trees. The trees mentioned by Councilwomen Kobayashi on GOVERNOR’S REPORT – Larry Reifurth, Director of the Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs (DCCA), introduced himself and distributed the Governor’s handout. He highlighted a) Keeping with her inaugural theme of moving Questions, answers, and comments: 1) Andersen asked if Manke had any follow up with KTUH regarding the idea that they could play the school alma mater over the 2) Andersen asked if the Centennial organizers had contacted the Time Capsule Society. Manke said he did have their contact information, but it turns out that some of the staff of 3) Holtrop asked if the user fee from the upcoming private event for 4) Richard Fassler wanted to let Senior Citizens know that people over 60 could sign up to audit courses. This means you can sit in and observe a class, but you do not have to do assignments nor do you receive a grade. A side benefit is that you can get student ID, which among other things allows you to buy cheap ($5) football tickets, concert tickets, and other discounts. PRESENTATIONS: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR GROUP LIVING AT Questions, answers, and comments: 1) Andersen asked if there was an on or off ramp near this location. Paikai said there was an on ramp. Andersen asked how increasing the amount of people living on the property to eleven would impact the infrastructure. Paikai responded the impact should be minimal. 2) Nakano asked if the neighbors had been canvassed. Paikai replied no, but he had sent out letters in the past few months, including one last week informing them of tonight’s presentation. 3) Eads asked about the two pins on the display map. Paikai explained that one was the location of the property, and the other pin was Johnson Hall, the nearest student housing facility. Eads inquired if major construction to the house would have to be done to accommodate eleven residents. Paikai replied that the previous owner had had illegally rented to more people than allowed, this owner basically just wanted to get a permit and make it legal. 4) Chun asked that although the owner is saying this would be only for students, would the permit allow people other than students to become residents in the future. Paikai said the owner very much wants to rent to students only. Chun asked if that desire changes, would the owner be required to come back to the Board. Paikai replied that could be a condition attached to the permit to restrict it to student housing. 5) The Chair asked how many people would be living in the facility. Paikai replied eleven. The Chair asked if it would be possible for the rooms to be doubled up, meaning twenty-five people would be living there. Paikai said that would not be practical as the rooms aren’t that big. The Chair if there was a maximum restriction in the permit though. Paikai said no. The Chair asked if there would be restrictions on cars. Paikai said that most students don’t own cars, so he would not think it was necessary. The Chair said many students have jobs and need cars, so that might be a problem. He feels Paikai is unable to give definitive information tonight. Paikai responded he would have to talk to the owners. 6) Eads wondered that with a common kitchen and living room, might there be City or State regulations that cap the amount of people per room. Paikai said he was not sure; the general rule is you cannot have more than five unrelated people in a house. He observed there might be some Department of Health (DOH) regulations that would apply to this situation. 7) Audience member Richard Yamashiro commented that not all the neighbors got the letter about tonight’s meeting. He said the neighbors want a limit on the amount of people allowed to live at this location and the intent to rent only to students included in the permit. The neighbors are worried about it being converted into a half way house in the future. Parking issues also need to be addressed fully. He added that his family rents, but they follow the five unrelated people rule. He also wondered if this could raise the property values for the neighbors. Paikai replied that the City will not use a property operating under this type of a variance in calculating the property values of neighboring properties. He reiterated that it is possible to add to the permit restrictions on the maximum amount of people and cars allowed at the property. 8) Audience member Vicky Yamashiro commented that the neighbors were not notified about tonight’s meeting. She added that she’s seen cars coming from that property ignore yield signs. She called her realtor about this variance, and he said it would affect their property taxes. She said the current owner bought the house in March of 2006, and has continued to have more than five renters. It was sold as a six bedroom unit, then was listed as having nine, and now they want to have eleven. Paikai replied that he did talk to Yamahsiro’s realtor last month. The additional bedrooms were all legally permitted. The City assessor would be made aware of the variance. The current owner had to retain a lawyer to evict some of the tenants who came with the property back in 2006. He added that he has certified mail receipts for the letters he sent out about tonight’s meeting to the neighbors. 9) An audience member commented that when he moved back to 10) An audience member wondered if having only three bathrooms for eleven people was adequate. Paikai explained that it is a three story structure, and each floor has one bathroom. 11) Melodie Metzger commented that she lived rented a room at this house twenty years ago. She thought it was congested back then. She asked what the square footage was. Paikai said the lot is 4800 square feet, while the house is 3400. The audience member added she thinks having the freeway off ramp right there does make it dangerous. Eads moved that the Board recommend to DPP that the application for the variance be rejected. Andersen seconded the motion. Nishioka commented that not enough information was given tonight for the Board to take a stance, and she would abstain from voting. She feels the Board should stay neutral and let DPP conduct its hearings. The Chair agreed, and said thee areas that need more information is a cap on the number of people allowed to live there, a cap on how many can have a car, and a stipulation if they must be students. Kim said the motion is to reject the permit, and that is not the purview of the Board. The Board can merely recommend things to DPP. Ragsdale said he feels the applicant has shown willingness to compromise, and he feels enough information was provided tonight. DPP provides the list of neighbors who must be mailed a letter, so if this list was incomplete it is DPP’s fault, not the applicants. He has no reservations about them obtaining the variance, and would like them to hammer out the details with the neighbors. He is not sure if DPP will hold public hearings on this or not. Eads commented that he agrees with Nishioka, and suggested the Board postpone any vote until some conditions are worked into the permit application. Nakano echoed Kim, and suggested the motion be amended to clarify that the Board is making a recommendation to DPP. Eads withdrew his motion. Eads asked if anyone else wanted to make a new motion. Chun suggested postponing any vote until the applicant can meet with the neighbors and come back to the Board. The Chair deferred the item with no objections. Audience member Dean Makimoto asked if the applicant for a variance to create a church mentioned by Representative Caldwell had previously presented to the Board. The City Council will be hearing this matter next week. The Chair replied they had not been presented to by this applicant. BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY – Su Shin, spokesperson for the Board of Water Supply (BWS), introduced herself. She reported that a) the Questions, answers, and comments: 1) The Chair asked about a complaint the Board and BWS had received about dust emanating from the 2) Ragsdale requested that BWS coordinate with the City so the City doesn’t repave a road that BWS is planning on ripping up in the near future. 3) An audience member said she was the one who had complained about the dust, and it has gotten much better. The lot being used as a baseyard is near her house and this is the third time it’s being used as a baseyard in the past four years. She thinks this is too much and wonders if it’s a zoning violation. Shin said she could look into it, but added that there are scare places where baseyards can be placed. This parcel is privately owned, and the owner grants permission to BWS to use it. 4) Audience member Pearson asked if the commitment to demobilize and restore Questions, answers, and comments: 1) The Chair requested that this presentation be done to the Diamond Head Neighborhood Board as this would likely impact them more than the Manoa Board. Stidman replied that they would be presenting to that Board next week. 2) Andersen asked what the projected cost for this event was. Stidman replied it was going out to bid. Andersen said so it won’t be an in house event. Tim Slaughter, from UH’s 3) Brian Shimakawa asked why the street had to be closed at 5 p.m. on the day before commencement. Slaughter replied that was to allow enough time to set up, and if the vendor tells them they don’t need that much time it will be adjusted. An audience member suggested hiring the people who throw the block parties in 4) Nishioka asked if this would be a dry function. Slaughter said not necessarily, there might be a beer garden on the University’s property, but not on the street. MALAMA O MANOA - Helen Nakano displayed one of the canvas bags that Malama o Manoa has designed; they want to eliminate the need for Manoa residents to use plastic bags. She announced that Marion Higa would be doing a presentation on the PRESENTATION ON REQUEST FOR CUP MINOR TO PLACE STEALTH ANTENNA AT MANOA VALLEY CHINESE CEMETERY - Ardis Shaw Kim, from Kusao and Kurahashi, introduced herself. Their proposal is to place a wireless communication site for T-mobile in the cemetery, which is in the back of the valley away from residents. Questions, answers, and comments: 1) Andersen asked if the cemetery owners agreed with this proposal. Shaw Kim replied they did. Andersen asked how far this structure would be away from the burial of children section of the cemetery. Shaw Kim said she was not sure, and would have to double check on the distance, but that it is in the opposite side of the parcel. Andersen asked how far away it would be from the graves of the unknown Chinese soldiers. Shaw Kim was not sure. Audience member Jimmy Young identified himself as a member of the Lin Yee Chung Association Trustees, and explained that the proposed site is about 200 feet from the children burial site and 300 feet from the unknown soldiers’ graves. He said that the Association’s officers were not aware of the amount of community concern to this proposal. 2) Nishioka asked what the additional coverage area would be provided by this antenna. Shaw Kim said she was not sure exactly, but basically the back of the valley. The nearest current antenna is across from Boston Pizza. 3) Tanaka asked if the President of the Lin Yee Chung Association was unaware of the community concerns. Young said not yet, as he is out of town. Tanaka said he had been provided with a copy of a petition in opposition to the proposal signed by 90 residents. Young commented he had not seen it before. The Chair asked that he be provided with a copy. 4) Tanaka commented that many people want a moratorium on new antennas until more complete studies on the effects of radiation from the antennas is complete. He also wondered if Federal law would prevent the antennae from being removed once it was put in place and then negative health effects discovered. 5) Niimoto commented that the handout did not show all of the affected streets and asked how many fake trees this proposal included. Shaw Kim said there would be just one fake tree, but the handout showed it from multiple angels. 6) Andersen asked if Puupia hill had been analyzed as a place to put this antenna. Shaw Kim said she was not sure, but that availability of power is a factor. Andersen replied that there were lots of electronic things on Puupia. Kim added that she did not think that would be aesthetically an improvement, as the cemetery has more vegetation, and the hill was a prominent landmark with legends about it. Andersen said she was referring to Puupueo, not Puupia. 7) Ragsdale asked if there was a T-Mobile engineer in attendance and if so could he answer if this was the minimum design to achieve coverage. Matt Miura he was a licensed engineer, and said it was the minimum height. 8) Eads asked how many T-Mobile customer’s live in Manoa valley. Shaw Kim said she was not sure, but pointed out that visitors who visit the valley would also be served by increased coverage. Eads asked if E911 was currently not available in the back of the valley. Matt said if coverage was present, than E911 was available. Increasing coverage therefore increases E911 coverage. Eads asked if E911 requires special equipment on the tower or just on HPD’s end. Miura said it required both. 9) The Chair asked why a sixty foot tower was required. Muira said that calculations indicated a higher elevation was needed. The Chair asked if there was anything to prevent another carrier from co-locating on this antenna. Muira said it was City policy to require a carrier to allow another carrier to co-locate. The Chair explained that this meant the pole could eventually end up with six sets of palm fronds. 10) Niimoto asked how many stories 60 feet equals. Miura said about six. 11) Nishioka asked if this only benefits the back of the valley. Shaw Kim replied that it would also provide additional channel capacity to the front of the valley. The Chair asked how much additional capacity this would add. Miura said he would have to get the numbers, but pointed out the trend is for people to use cell phones at home and for web surfing, so it’s important. 12) Board member Kim asked is the requirement that this be E911 compliant cause the 60 foot height requirement. He also wanted to know if people at Manoa falls have e911 access thru this tower. Matt said that was correct. 13) Tanaka asked how much is T-Mobile paying for this location. Young said they would be paid $1000 a month. Tanaka asked if Young had time to form a reaction to the petition in opposition given to him earlier. Young said he knows the Lin Yee Chung Association will follow the wishes of the community. 14) The Chair asked if access to E911 was carrier specific. Matt said it was. The Chair asked about 911. Matt said only T-mobile customers can access the signal from the T-mobile tower. The following audience members gave testimony: 1) Wendell Ching said he lives in the back of the valley across from a home that has a T-mobile antenna on it. He thinks there is adequate coverage in the back of the valley. He wants T-mobile to find another site than the cemetery. 2) Jesse Ikey asked the Board to recommend denying the CUP. He said the cemetery is zoned preservation P-2, and should be kept that way. It is also a registered State historic site. The mango tree is 51 feet, the palm tree is 44 feet, and the proposed tower would be 60 feet, by far the tallest thing in the cemetery. 3) Diane Shimasu said that not all the neighbors got the letter about tonight’s meeting. Eighty-one neighbors had signed the petition in opposition. She is worried about the radiation from the tower. She wondered if any agency is responsible for monitoring the radiation, and observed that cellular technology is still to new to measure any long term health impacts. 4) Seth Tanimoto said that he has T-mobile and his coverage is fine in the back of the valley. He pointed out that T-mobile previous proposal had a smaller antenna then this one, and the residents were against that one too. 5) Michael Kliks said he had not yet decided to support this proposal; he will go to the cemetery to check out the areas under debate. He asked if the EA had been filed yet. Shaw said it had not. He replied it should have been before they presented to the Board. He would like to see alternate sites considered. 6) Scott Wilson identified himself as the current President of Malama o Manoa, an organization that boasts a 4,000 household mailing list. He presented a statement from its Board of Directors in opposition to this proposal on the basis of its location and the height of the tower. 7) Laurie Chang commented that he had seen towers like the proposed one on the mainland, but feels that smog helps to make them blend in. Manoa’s cleaner air will expose it as an artificial tree. She added that her relatives are in the cemetery, and she hope the proposal is rejected. 8) Mike Linewebber said he went thru this before when Hawaiian Electric Company (HECO), put a transformer right next to his house. He hopes community objections wins out this time. 9) Sandy Sukiyama de Olivera commented that Puupia and Puupueo are the same hill. 10) Joe Ferrao asked if several small towers could be done instead of one big one. He thinks this is about T-mobile being able to get more customers onto their network, not improving services. 11) Larry Yamamoto observed that the cemetery has two large mango trees that would have to be pruned according to this proposal. He wonders why two real trees should be traded for one fake one. He thinks its wrong for a non-profit entity to profit in this manner. 12) Gordon Kuada said the cemetery is right in his backyard and he worries about the health impact of the tower. His wife has a pacemaker. He is also disappointed that the cemetery is trying to turn a profit off this. 13) Tony Warspring commented that this is the same consultant as previous antenna proposals, and that Mr. Kurahashi has cell phone antennas on his house. He wondered if those were legal and how much he is making off all these consulting jobs. He also wondered what is going to prevent other carriers from piggybacking on this tower. Shaw Kim replied that the antenna on Kurahashi’s house is not T-mobile, and is legally permitted. They are a for profit company. 14) Dr. Nathaniel Ching said he strongly opposed this. The cemetery is a resting place and should not have Electromagnetic Waves all over it. We should honor our ancestors, not bombard them with 0 and 1’s. He was disappointed that not more Chinese organizations showed up to protest tonight. 15) Melodie Metzger said that sometimes her T-mobile phone does not have good service ion the back of the valley, but this was not worth improving it. 16) Representative Kirk Caldwell said that had written a joint letter with Councilperson Kobayashi and Senator Taniguchi to the cemetery owners asking them to reconsider the proposal. He noted that everyone was opposed who showed up tonight. 17) Daniel Dinnell commented that he hoped the owners watch the Olelo broadcast so that they see how many people were opposed. 18) George Arzumi said he was against visual blight. He knows the cemetery cold use the money, but maybe the community could help fundraise instead of this. Board member Tanaka said he also felt bad for the cemetery. He suspects the Lin Yee Chung Association will reverse its position after tonight, and he wondered what T-mobile’s reaction will be. Shaw Kim said she would have to ask them. Tanaka asked Young what his thoughts were. He replied that they want to beautify the cemetery, and they do accept donations. The Chair asked if there was any motion from the Board on this matter. Jackson moved that the Manoa Neighborhood Board recommend to the Department of Planning and Permitting that they deny the request for a Conditional Use Permit Minor by T-mobile to place a Cell phone antenna at the Manoa Chinese Cemetery.” Andersen seconded the motion. The motion passed 11-1-0. (Aye: Andersen, Chun, Eads, Holtrop, Jackson, Kim, Mitsuda, Nakano, Niimoto, Nishioka, and Tanaka. Nay: Ragsdale). APPROVAL OF THE JULY 11, 2007 MINUTES – Andersen offered the following corrections: Page 2, Line 25 – “not necessary although the Neighborhood plan and Robert's Rules of Order does call for it.” The minutes were adopted 12-0-0. (Andersen, Chun, Eads, Holtrop, Jackson, Kim, Mitsuda, Nakano, Niimoto, Nishioka, Ragsdale, and Tanaka). TREASURER REPORT – Niimoto reported that for August, $14.68 was spent to print the agendas and minutes, $43.05 was spent to mail them. There was an annual facility rental charge of $500.06. $209.52 was expended out of the Publicity account for the videotaping of the July meeting. The Board currently has $904.48 in its operating account, $2,290.48 in its publicity, and $120 in the refreshment account. APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO SERVE ON PLANNING, TRANSPORTATION, AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE– The Chair deferred this item. ADJOURNMENT: Without objection, the meeting was adjourned at 10:15 p.m. Submitted by: Bryan Mick, |
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